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Why can't I solve for more eigenvalues?

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Hi,

I have a 3.5a file that I have opened in 4.0a. The file simulates some PDEs that simulate light traveling around the edge of an axisymmetric disk optical resonator. It returns the mode shape of the light traveling around the rim of that disk, in a cross-section perpendicular to the light propagation direction.

However I can only ever get it to give me four eigenvalues! Since it seems to be unstable (only giving correct modes for certain eigenvalue guesses, and giving spurious modes if you change the eigenvalue by just a few percent), I'd like to solve for TONS of eigenmodes (which I know will take a long time but that's ok), and quickly flick through them afterwards to find the non-spurious (i.e. correct) ones.

When I click Model Builder > Study 1 > Step 1: Eigenvalue 1, it says:
- Desired number of eigenvalues

If you enter anything greater than 4 in that box, it still only returns four eigenvalues! If you enter "3" in that box it also still gives me 4 eigenvalues.

The version 4.0a .mph is attached.

Thanks!

P.S. Don't worry about there being both "Solution 1" and "Solution 2"... the former is just the solution from when I was using this file in 3.5a, then I opened it in 4.0a and solved again, giving Solution 2.


3 Replies Last Post Mar 4, 2011, 10:58 p.m. EST
Ivar KJELBERG COMSOL Multiphysics(r) fan, retired, former "Senior Expert" at CSEM SA (CH)

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Posted: 1 decade ago Mar 4, 2011, 1:13 a.m. EST
Hi

my experience is that the translation (because of the numerous changes) does not really work, so I use imported 3.5 files in V4 only to "look at" and to analyse. Then I rebuild the model fully in v4 (even v4.0 to v4.1 translations, I do not trust) you can export/import the geometry to go faster

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Good luck
Ivar
Hi my experience is that the translation (because of the numerous changes) does not really work, so I use imported 3.5 files in V4 only to "look at" and to analyse. Then I rebuild the model fully in v4 (even v4.0 to v4.1 translations, I do not trust) you can export/import the geometry to go faster -- Good luck Ivar

Magnus Ringh COMSOL Employee

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Posted: 1 decade ago Mar 4, 2011, 2:52 a.m. EST
Hi,

The reason for this is that your study setting asking for 20 eigenvalues in the Step 1: Eigenvalue 1 node's settings in this model is overridden by a local setting the Solver Configurations>Solver 1>Eigenvalue Solver 1 node's settings: It specifies 4 eigenvalues. Select "Step 1: Eigenvalue" from the "Defined by study step" list and re-solve to compute 20 eigenvalues and corresponding eigenmodes. The default setting for an Eigenvalue Solver node in new models is to take its settings from the study step.

Best regards,
Magnus Ringh, COMSOL
Hi, The reason for this is that your study setting asking for 20 eigenvalues in the Step 1: Eigenvalue 1 node's settings in this model is overridden by a local setting the Solver Configurations>Solver 1>Eigenvalue Solver 1 node's settings: It specifies 4 eigenvalues. Select "Step 1: Eigenvalue" from the "Defined by study step" list and re-solve to compute 20 eigenvalues and corresponding eigenmodes. The default setting for an Eigenvalue Solver node in new models is to take its settings from the study step. Best regards, Magnus Ringh, COMSOL

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Posted: 1 decade ago Mar 4, 2011, 10:58 p.m. EST
That's it! Thanks!

(Note to developers: It'd be great to have notification when this setting is overridden)
That's it! Thanks! (Note to developers: It'd be great to have notification when this setting is overridden)

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