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Permanent magnet - N42- whatis the magnetization?

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Hi,
please could you help me with my problem - when I would like to simulate perm magnet, what for permeability and magnetization should I input when I only know the grade (N42 or N45 or F30) and the dimensions and mass of the magnet?
thank you

3 Replies Last Post Nov 6, 2013, 4:00 p.m. EST
Ivar KJELBERG COMSOL Multiphysics(r) fan, retired, former "Senior Expert" at CSEM SA (CH)

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Posted: 1 decade ago Nov 12, 2011, 5:51 a.m. EST
Hi

check out the corresponding magnetisation M, or if you cannot find that on the web get an approximate Tesla value measured close to the magnet (in a free air case, simple model you can reproduce), and adapt your M of your magnet material to get the same freestanding Tesla value in your example model with COMSOL

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Good luck
Ivar
Hi check out the corresponding magnetisation M, or if you cannot find that on the web get an approximate Tesla value measured close to the magnet (in a free air case, simple model you can reproduce), and adapt your M of your magnet material to get the same freestanding Tesla value in your example model with COMSOL -- Good luck Ivar

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Posted: 1 decade ago Nov 6, 2013, 3:13 a.m. EST
I have been working with N42 magnets and use a older Gauss meter for measurement as values for plug in values in this way. The unit values in COMSOL are in Webers. I was wondering if the values were transposed properly as I do not see the m being squared or M-2 in non superscript text. Should I be taking the Square root of the Tesla unit? Otherwise, I am still digging into how to set polarity and spatial blotch regions properly. I appreciate your time and input. COMSOL MULTIPHYSICS is Great. Now all I have to do is figure out how to use it! Independent Researcher, Scott Clark
I have been working with N42 magnets and use a older Gauss meter for measurement as values for plug in values in this way. The unit values in COMSOL are in Webers. I was wondering if the values were transposed properly as I do not see the m being squared or M-2 in non superscript text. Should I be taking the Square root of the Tesla unit? Otherwise, I am still digging into how to set polarity and spatial blotch regions properly. I appreciate your time and input. COMSOL MULTIPHYSICS is Great. Now all I have to do is figure out how to use it! Independent Researcher, Scott Clark

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Posted: 1 decade ago Nov 6, 2013, 4:00 p.m. EST
You can find more detailed Information about the magnetization of N42 Magnets on the Internet, for example here: www.ndfeb-info.com/neodymium_grades.aspx

With that said, you can specfiy the Magnet with a Ampere's Law in the Magnetic Fields Section:
- Select your Magnet as Domain
- In the Magnetic Field Section of the Ampere's Law, select Remanent Flux Density as Constitutive relation
- Set your B_r in the field wich apears

You can find more detailed Information about the magnetization of N42 Magnets on the Internet, for example here: http://www.ndfeb-info.com/neodymium_grades.aspx With that said, you can specfiy the Magnet with a Ampere's Law in the Magnetic Fields Section: - Select your Magnet as Domain - In the Magnetic Field Section of the Ampere's Law, select Remanent Flux Density as Constitutive relation - Set your B_r in the field wich apears

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