Henrik Sönnerlind
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Posted:
4 years ago
Apr 28, 2021, 10:00 a.m. EDT
The boundary system can have either fixed directions, or directions that follow the deformation. This is determined by the Frame setting in the Boundary System node.
This, of course, assumes that the analysis is geometrically nonlinear, so that there is an actual difference between the material frame and the spatial frame. Also, the deformation scale for the plots should be 1 both for the membrane itself, and for the coordinate system plot.
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Henrik Sönnerlind
COMSOL
The boundary system can have either fixed directions, or directions that follow the deformation. This is determined by the *Frame* setting in the *Boundary System* node.
This, of course, assumes that the analysis is geometrically nonlinear, so that there is an actual difference between the material frame and the spatial frame. Also, the deformation scale for the plots should be 1 both for the membrane itself, and for the coordinate system plot.
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Posted:
4 years ago
Apr 28, 2021, 1:28 p.m. EDT
Thanks for the reply.
The scale of the deformation is set to 1 in the plot (for the displacement of the membrane and the coordinate system).
The frame setting is on "deformed configuration" (default setting). When I change it to 'geometry' or 'reference' the boundary system definitely keeps it original orientation and does not adjust with the deformation. I tried that after you mentioned it.
With the frame setting on "deformed configuaration" the boundary system follows the deformation at first but at some point it diverges as you can see in the animated gif.
Thanks for the reply.
The scale of the deformation is set to 1 in the plot (for the displacement of the membrane and the coordinate system).
The frame setting is on "deformed configuration" (default setting). When I change it to 'geometry' or 'reference' the boundary system definitely keeps it original orientation and does not adjust with the deformation. I tried that after you mentioned it.
With the frame setting on "deformed configuaration" the boundary system follows the deformation at first but at some point it diverges as you can see in the animated gif.
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Posted:
4 years ago
Apr 29, 2021, 4:07 a.m. EDT
I solved it:
In the settings of the Boundary System Node there is a dropdown menu "create first tangent direction from". It is set on "global cartesian (spartial) / (x,y,z)" by default. When i set it to "material / (X,Y,Z)" the boundary system follows the deformation perfectly.
which makes sense when I look at the pictures in the doc:
https://doc.comsol.com/5.5/doc/com.comsol.help.comsol/comsol_ref_deformedmeshes.25.05.html
Thanks again for the hints!
I solved it:
In the settings of the Boundary System Node there is a dropdown menu "create first tangent direction from". It is set on "global cartesian (spartial) / (x,y,z)" by default. When i set it to "material / (X,Y,Z)" the boundary system follows the deformation perfectly.
which makes sense when I look at the pictures in the doc:
https://doc.comsol.com/5.5/doc/com.comsol.help.comsol/comsol_ref_deformedmeshes.25.05.html
Thanks again for the hints!
Henrik Sönnerlind
COMSOL Employee
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Posted:
4 years ago
Apr 29, 2021, 7:11 a.m. EDT
It looks like it is related to the setting for 'Create first tangent from'. The only orientation that is uniquely defined is the normal vector (the blue arrow). It can be a bit tricky to get the in-plane orientations that you really want for a general scenario with large rotations. Note that the actual orientation of the first tangent is the projection of the selected direction on the surface.
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Henrik Sönnerlind
COMSOL
It looks like it is related to the setting for 'Create first tangent from'. The only orientation that is uniquely defined is the normal vector (the blue arrow). It can be a bit tricky to get the in-plane orientations that you really want for a general scenario with large rotations. Note that the actual orientation of the first tangent is the projection of the selected direction on the surface.