Robert Koslover
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Posted:
8 months ago
Aug 29, 2024, 2:22 p.m. EDT
You didn't mention your waveguide size or approx RF frequency, but I'm going to guess that if you are trying to do this on a time scale that follows the RF waves in detail, then, you have two vastly different time scales involved. From a purely RF perspective, your problem becomes (presumably) entirely steady state (that is, a second might as well be forever) unless your switching time is short enough for transient effects to actually matter. If so, but if you are only interested in the steady state situation, then just solve two problems: the ON condition and the OFF (ok, unlikely to be of much interest) condition. Hey, any chance you are working on modeling a microwave oven? After all, this is how microwave ovens behave. You can find some microwave oven model examples in Comsol supplied example files. Now, if you want to explore the transient filling/response of an RF cavity, then (once again) it is unlikely your cavity fill/empty time scales are anywhere near a second long. So, you would only be interested in either the filling or emptying process itself, during/about a single switching event (right?), in which case, a time-domain transient RF model is appropriate. But, you would only run it for a duration sufficient to cover the physics involved, i.e., nowhere near as long as a second. Indeed, maybe less than a microsecond. Those are my initial thoughts. Perhaps you should post your .mph file to the forum or explain in more detail what you are trying to accomplish?
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You didn't mention your waveguide size or approx RF frequency, but I'm going to guess that if you are trying to do this on a time scale that follows the RF waves in detail, then, you have two *vastly* different time scales involved. From a purely RF perspective, your problem becomes (presumably) entirely steady state (that is, a second might as well be forever) unless your switching time is short enough for transient effects to actually matter. If so, but if you are only interested in the steady state situation, then just solve two problems: the ON condition and the OFF (ok, unlikely to be of much interest) condition. Hey, any chance you are working on modeling a microwave oven? After all, this is how microwave ovens behave. You can find some microwave oven model examples in Comsol supplied example files. Now, if you want to explore the transient filling/response of an RF cavity, then (once again) it is unlikely your cavity fill/empty time scales are anywhere near a second long. So, you would only be interested in either the filling or emptying process itself, during/about a single switching event (right?), in which case, a time-domain transient RF model is appropriate. But, you would only run it for a duration sufficient to cover the physics involved, i.e., nowhere near as long as a second. Indeed, maybe less than a microsecond. Those are my initial thoughts. Perhaps you should post your .mph file to the forum or explain in more detail what you are trying to accomplish?
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Posted:
8 months ago
Aug 29, 2024, 4:31 p.m. EDT
Probably not a microwave as those are not usually cylindrical.
OP should explain what he is trying to learn. Keep in mind that the ring-down (and ring-up) time of a cavity is (very roughly) of the order of the Q multiplied by the period of the excitation. So for a high-Q cavity (say, tens of thousands) a simulation would require a very very long time. Certainly unrealistic, which is why OP should explain what he is after so we can help him find a better way.
Probably not a microwave as those are not usually cylindrical.
OP should explain what he is trying to learn. Keep in mind that the ring-down (and ring-up) time of a cavity is (very roughly) of the order of the Q multiplied by the period of the excitation. So for a high-Q cavity (say, tens of thousands) a simulation would require a very very long time. Certainly unrealistic, which is why OP should explain what he is after so we can help him find a better way.