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Solution not converged

Posted Apr 26, 2012, 1:17 p.m. EDT RF & Microwave Engineering, Studies & Solvers Version 3.5a, Version 4.3 6 Replies

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Hi, all

Recently I'm encountering convergence problems. Physically the problem has decent solution. So I assume the problem lies in numerics. However it does not seem easy to find the reason for the divergence...

The complication of the problem may be one boundary condition. It's a model coupling an RF module (2D, solving Hz) and a PDE. In the PDE module, a boundary condition has electric fields in the expression. For some direct solver, and a particular value of a parameter in the model, it can converge. When the parameter takes other values, it always diverge, leading to non-physical solution with several singularly large values.

For some simple iteration methods, divergence may be avoided by tuning certain parameters. Similarly can we change something in the solver settings to secure convergence?

Thanks a lot!
6 Replies Last Post May 7, 2012, 5:25 a.m. EDT
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Posted: 1 decade ago May 4, 2012, 5:48 a.m. EDT
Does anyone have clue? I'm still struggling with this problem.

Thanks!
Does anyone have clue? I'm still struggling with this problem. Thanks!
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Posted: 1 decade ago May 4, 2012, 5:54 a.m. EDT
Since I'm sure the physical setting has proper solutions, I suppose there may be two sources of the divergence:

1. The way to assign the boundary condition.

2. The solver itself.

I'm using version 3.5a. Is it possible the new versions give converged solutions? Thinking about try 4.2...
Since I'm sure the physical setting has proper solutions, I suppose there may be two sources of the divergence: 1. The way to assign the boundary condition. 2. The solver itself. I'm using version 3.5a. Is it possible the new versions give converged solutions? Thinking about try 4.2...
Jim Freels mechanical side of nuclear engineering, multiphysics analysis, COMSOL specialist
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Posted: 1 decade ago May 5, 2012, 11:11 p.m. EDT
It is difficult to help you without knowing more about the problem. You might supply your model.

Yes, v4.2a is much improved over v3.5a. That is why it was released. Version 4.3 is coming out soon.
It is difficult to help you without knowing more about the problem. You might supply your model. Yes, v4.2a is much improved over v3.5a. That is why it was released. Version 4.3 is coming out soon.
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Posted: 1 decade ago May 6, 2012, 12:54 p.m. EDT
Hi, James

Thanks a lot for your reply!

I only have 3.5a version model files. Is it ok if I upload a 3.5a file?
Hi, James Thanks a lot for your reply! I only have 3.5a version model files. Is it ok if I upload a 3.5a file?
Ivar KJELBERG COMSOL Multiphysics(r) fan, retired, former "Senior Expert" at CSEM SA (CH)
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Posted: 1 decade ago May 6, 2012, 1:52 p.m. EDT
Hi

as often, newer versions can read older ones (but not earlier than 3.5a), but 3.5a cannot read v4 files, unfortunately

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Good luck
Ivar
Hi as often, newer versions can read older ones (but not earlier than 3.5a), but 3.5a cannot read v4 files, unfortunately -- Good luck Ivar
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Posted: 1 decade ago May 7, 2012, 5:25 a.m. EDT
Hi, Ivar and James

Thanks for your replies!

Here's my model file attached. I modified subdomain and boundary equation systems to introduce coupling and boundary condition.

Thanks!
Hi, Ivar and James Thanks for your replies! Here's my model file attached. I modified subdomain and boundary equation systems to introduce coupling and boundary condition. Thanks!

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